B.C. could nearly wipe out COVID-19 by September with 70% contact rate and high vaccine uptake: officials
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“and personal interactions remain well below pre-pandemic levels.” That seems like wishful thinking. Below is possible, but what is the point of the last 18 months, if interactions have to remain WELL below pre pandemic levels.
That’s until September. Getting vaccinated and still staying safe to make sure we get the lowest cases possible is better than getting partially vaccinated and going back to having ragers and grinding on sweaty people in night clubs right away. Better to be safe than sorry like Alberta’s going to be.
They are saying by having a 70% interaction rate (compared to prepandemmy) and maintaining high compliance with vaccinations will wipe Covid out. 80% interaction levels and having less people vaccinated and we’ll be seeing 200 cases a day by September. Is having your prepandemic social interactions reduced by a mere 30% really that much??
Frankly I don’t want nearly as much social interaction as I was getting pre pandemic. A 30% reduction sounds about perfect.
I had a nightmare last night that I was in a grocery store and nobody was wearing a mask. Then I realized *I* wasn’t wearing a mask and it stressed me the hell out. I’m sure lots of people are feeling like returning to 100% interaction is a bit daunting.
Only if you’re a Redditor
this is a terrible idea. in the age of social media and an already insular populace you want to mandate limited real life social interactions?
Okay, I didn’t say literally any of what you’re implying I said, but you do you :P
> Is having your prepandemic social interactions reduced by a mere 30% really that much??
When my prepandemic social interaction was dinner with friends a few times a month, and maybe a fire every other month or so? Yes. Especially if I'm not allowed to exist in my work office with other people, so literally any social interaction has to come from my friends and partner.
You’re totally allowed to have outdoor gatherings, so I don’t see how your social engagements would be remotely risky, especially considering that summer is nigh. My point stands.
Zero COVID? Seriously? You are seriously still aiming to eradicate this virus? Sorry but that is FANTASY and will NEVER happen COVID is here to stay so time to get the vaccine and move on with life
I didn’t say it’ll wipe Covid out completely… also I’ll be fully vaccinated at the end of the month so…. Preaching to the choir here.
And what about the “still” part? Do I know you? Lol
Yeah, I thought of that as well reading this. I don't think anyone really knows what level is sufficient.
At first I thought Alberta's reopening was a but crazy but tbh I think they are doing things well. We saw a drop-off in cases last summer, school will be out soon, and vaccines are flying into arms.
The difference between now and 70% with two doses is likely only a month or so, so even IF cases do start to rise, going from 200 cases a day to 500 cases would be rather negligible after the wave we currently endured.
Even during the 2nd and 3rd waves it took a couple months for the exponential growth to wind up to rapid growth. So even if cases rise we'll be nearly through all 2nd doses by then.
9.1 million doses arriving in Canada next week! End is in sight.
Alberta is the only somewhat sane province, all your other provinces are absolutely crazy. How can they just be ignoring the large nation of 330 million people just to the south getting rid of masks a month ago with no massive increase in cases?
Too conservative for most province's so the US doesn't count, they just want to listen to Justin tell us how great we're doing at first doses. I don't know why we think cases will EVER go to zero, we lost that battle back in January of 2020 as a planet. Pandora's box was opened and there's no going back. Let's use modern medicine to get back to a normal life, please and thank you.
Something like 1/3 of Americans have had covid, so there is a lot of natural immunity there as well. We will see what happens as that starts to fade.
It's 10%, not one third. 110 million Americans haven't had covid, that's about the worldwide case number. This is what I mean when I say the US is too conservative for people to listen, god forbid the US does anything right, oh no it's this and that because Justin has decided that we're better and they're worse.
It's vaccines, early vaccines and getting two doses. Contrary to what Justin thinks, you need two doses for the vaccine to be effective.
Official statistics only capture about 25% of cases. The rest are either asymptomatic or were never tested.
Two doses of vaccine are important, but the first provides more than half of the protection. That's what real world data says, not just Justin's opinion.
Sure, whatever, it's probably unrecorded cases that's doing it, not their second dose vaccine rate. That couldn't be it, nothing the US does is possibly correct? Canadian smugness at its finest.
I mean we can just sit at home, not travel, not go anywhere, while the US case count keeps doing down. Meanwhile we're talking about a fourth wave, maybe opening up travel in July only to Canadians, and we'll just never do anything.
We would certainly be better protected if we had more vaccine so more people had second doses, but we would be much worse off if we had prioritized second doses with the same vaccine supply and over half of the population was still unvaccinated as a result.
Yah, for sure I totally agree.
I mean really it would have been better if the guy leading the vaccine delivery wasn't a sex predator and resigned or if Justin didn't spend months trying to secure vaccine from China instead of the US because Trump was mean to him. Remember how pushed back our vaccination delivery was because our half wit Drama teacher prime minister is incapable of leading a country? He wants to pretend like he is now doing a good job, but in reality we're getting a bunch of cast offs from the US.
I mean he has gone so far as to not allow a Montana based first nations tribe to share vaccines with Canadians, because border rules. Like come on man...
>At first I thought Alberta's reopening was a but crazy
The problem with Alberta is that they are just taking a massive risk without the science behind them. It's more luck than anything that they aren't a hell hole.
That's not necessarily true. All research shows that the 1st dose has a significant impact on building immunity. Even the 'worst' numbers that the media is loving to parrot right now is that the 1st dose is only 33% effective against the Indian / delta variant is often misunderstood. It's 33% effective at preventing any symptoms but still much higher at preventing hospitalizations.
Canada's direction from the start has never been to get cases to 0, it's been to not overload the healthcare system. As much as Canada shits on Alberta, they still have one of the best healthcare systems in the country.
They made a calculated risk based on available data and their capacity. That's not the same as a massive risk without any science.
Labor day, perfect timing for them to shut you down for the winter "surge" what a fucking joke your government is
Facts please! Let's not forget we were supposed to wipe out Covid within 12 weeks of its appearance in Canada.
The vaccines available today have lesser efficacy against the Delta variant.
I do not know what magic were they thinking.
only for 30% effective against symptoms but the vaccines are still 80% effective in preventing death and serious illness from the delta variant
That is one dose you're referring to. More than 80+% for symptomatic infection with 2 doses.
no, i am talking about hospitalization and death from 1 dose of vaccine vs the Delta variant. the last study i say show it was 80% effective in preventing hospitalization and death while only being 30% effective against symptoms
"WIPE OUT"-I was referring to this.
Pandemic can't be wiped out by the current vaccines we have. We may survive but covid is here to stay like flu or measles . For now.